....well shit I am going to have to watch this, now. I mean my brain hurts a little at the concept but in a good way.
... it turns out that repeating the tropes often enough to gain cultural saturation is also a valid way of pushing the boundaries of what's considered acceptable to portray, too. It's not that anyone has gone farther, but they've gone again and again and again. To the point where the visual vocabulary of Utena is a set of tropes on its own, which I've seen pop up as complex and symbolic referents in things as unrelated as the Pokemon anime and fricking One Piece.
Okay, I absolutely missed the Utena referents in One Piece (probably because I watched all of Utena and my ADHD brain promptly discarded almost everything about except the emotional experience of watching it, sigh), and am very *chinhands* as to what they might be!
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Date: 2022-11-10 05:15 am (UTC)....well shit I am going to have to watch this, now. I mean my brain hurts a little at the concept but in a good way.
... it turns out that repeating the tropes often enough to gain cultural saturation is also a valid way of pushing the boundaries of what's considered acceptable to portray, too. It's not that anyone has gone farther, but they've gone again and again and again. To the point where the visual vocabulary of Utena is a set of tropes on its own, which I've seen pop up as complex and symbolic referents in things as unrelated as the Pokemon anime and fricking One Piece.
Okay, I absolutely missed the Utena referents in One Piece (probably because I watched all of Utena and my ADHD brain promptly discarded almost everything about except the emotional experience of watching it, sigh), and am very *chinhands* as to what they might be!