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In honor of International Saiyuki Week, a holiday declared by [livejournal.com profile] coffeeandink and [livejournal.com profile] rachelmanija (among others) in a fashion vaguely and accidentally coinciding with Kazuya Minekura's birthday, I'm going to talk about an aspect of the series that has *never, ever* been given serious critical attention, a thing that is never mentioned in all of the various wonderful and insightful posts about Buddhist theology, Chinese mythology, the art of placement of text in a manga panel and whether Hakkai and Gojyo are doing it the interesting personal relationships.


I am referring, of course, to the plushies.

Because the Saiyuki plushies? Are a GATEWAY DRUG.

I mean, I had been aware, before I started reading and watching Saiyuki, that the Japanese anime industry has a tendency to make little cute dolls out of insanely detailed felt depicting every character who becomes really popular, even the ones who should not under any circumstances be made out of felt. But before Saiyuki? I'd never seen one of them in person. I certainly didn't own any of the things.

Then a friend found the Saiyuki plushies on eBay, and I got a set, because I had to, and now I personally own at least twenty plushies (including one of Miaka from Fushigi Yuugi) and the household owns approximately seventy jillion plushies including the ones from *Neon Genesis Evangelion* and Ryuuichi from Gravitation *wearing a bunny suit*, and it is ALL KAZUYA MINEKURA'S FAULT.

So I thought I'd give you some critical analysis of the Saiyuki plushies. Because they deserve it. FOR TAKING OVER OUR COUCH.

There are five of them.

I thought I'd start discussion with a mention of Kougaiji, since he's the only one of the villains who gets to be represented in plush. Here he is:



"My nose! My nose is... nonexistent."

All in all, I think this is a fairly reasonable plushie; Kou's hair is the correct color, and although you can't see it, it does go down his back to about the right length; also major points for the accurately marked felt earrings and the general expression of peevish annoyance. And the plush pointed ears are really adorable. However, could his feet be any bigger? Really? And the way they've done the jacket makes it look rather like one of those school uniform jackets, which he's inexplicably forgotten to button. Also, the scarf thingie is a rather peculiar shade of purple. And, criminally, NO BRACELETS. They could have done bracelets if they were going to do earrings.

The headband is perfect, though. And this plushie will definitely try to kill its owners in their sleep, although not as much as the next one will.



"My nose is... none of your damn business."

I have to admit, it's the Sanzo plushie that made me buy the set. Just look at him! The sutra! The fan! The sandals! The way he's going to SHOOT THE MANUFACTURER AND DON'T THINK YOU'RE GETTING OUT OF THIS EITHER! The multi-layered hair and the vague chibi-ness around the eyes!

Seriously, except for the fact that his chin is inexplicably fat and that he could've been holding a gun instead of obviously about to pull it, I'm absolutely and totally satisfied with this plushie. It gives the house a real presence of Sanzo. For a while, we had one of these surrounded by about six of the next one.



"Nose? Huh? I'm hungry!"

I love everything about this plushie except the face. Specifically, the mouth and cheeks. The mouth is just a little too wide, and a little too, well, stupid-looking, and the cheeks look as though somebody's gone after him with a makeup crayon. However, the headband and the ankle cuffs and the cloak and everything else are just so good... it's pretty annoying. Rrgh.

Of course, to calm one's annoyance...



"My nose is exactly where it's always been, which is why my monocle doesn't fall off."

Except it kind of doesn't, because NO DRAGON. And what is his sash doing a) tied in a bow and b) the same purple as Kougaiji's scarf? Points for effort on the ear cuff and shirt closure, though. And the chibi monocle is absolutely adorable. (It's made out of a little piece of clear plastic.) And he looks so happy to be a plushie. He can improve any set of plushies or action figures. For a while I owned a very small rainbow flag that I got at some gay event or other, and Hakkai wound up holding it, and you've never seen anyone happier about holding a rainbow flag. It was beautiful. Especially since next to him, and staring at him in Shock and Confusion, was...



"Felt! My nose is made of felt!"

This one's perfect. I can't think of a single thing that could be done to improve this plushie. He's even got a cigarette. And he wants your body. Whoever you are. I took this plushie on a trip once to my parents, and when I dumped my bag out on the bed he landed smack dab in the middle of the pillow and looked so damn smug that I threw him across the room... where he ended up in my partly opened underwear drawer, right side up, looking so infinitely smug that I fell over laughing. I highly recommend having one of these, because everybody needs a bishonen kappa.

On the list of Fabled And Rare Saiyuki Items Which You Can Basically Only Get In Japan: professional Hakuryuu plushies, and a Can of Saiyuki which gives you different versions of all five shown here plus dragon. But I've never seen any of those personally because they are absurdly and madly expensive.

There you have it: a basic critical overview. Go ye all and deconstruct.

Happy International Saiyuki Week!

Date: 2006-03-24 07:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com
Argh! The pictures aren't showing up!

Date: 2006-03-24 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rushthatspeaks.livejournal.com
Working on it. I've now got them displaying, but not in the right place.

Date: 2006-03-24 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com
Aww! They are so cute that they have totally shut down my critical faculties and I forgot whatever intelligent replies I was going to make. Oh, wait, now I remember:

1. Does anyone think that Gojyo and Hakkai are not doing it?

2. I was so thrilled to discover the existence of a Gaara plushie, I cannot tell you. Is there also a Gendo Ikari plushie?

3. Should you choose to make a non-plushie post... What about some discussion of the Homura arc? It's quite interesting and little-discussed due to being anime-only, except for a side-story that I haven't read.

Date: 2006-03-24 08:07 pm (UTC)
kate_nepveu: Hakkai from front with hand in hair and small smile (Saiyuki (Hakkai))
From: [personal profile] kate_nepveu
They are adorable, though I must nitpick that Gojyo & Kou's hair ought to be closer together in color. Or perhaps it's the picture.

I must put a Hakuryuu plushie on my list of things to look for when we got to Worldcon next year.

Date: 2006-03-24 08:08 pm (UTC)
ext_6428: (saiyuki (drunk monk))
From: [identity profile] coffeeandink.livejournal.com
The Sanzo plush looks ... weepy. That is just so wrong.

Date: 2006-03-24 08:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cosmorific.livejournal.com
Chibi Sanzo wins at life.

Date: 2006-03-24 08:27 pm (UTC)
octopedingenue: (sanzo is my co-pilot)
From: [personal profile] octopedingenue
I didn't know these existed OH MY GOD I NEED THEM ALL I NEVER SEE THEM AT CONS WHY!

Date: 2006-03-24 08:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thomasyan.livejournal.com
He's obviously channeling Butters from South Park. *snicker*

I was tempted to by a plushie of the cat from Trigun when I saw it in a Suncoast store. I still would like one, but I didn't feel the price was justified. (Says the man who bought about 4 dozen books in two weeks.)

Date: 2006-03-24 08:30 pm (UTC)
kate_nepveu: Hakkai from front with hand in hair and small smile (Saiyuki (Hakkai))
From: [personal profile] kate_nepveu
1. Me, but this is probably not the time or place.

Date: 2006-03-24 08:33 pm (UTC)
ext_6428: (Default)
From: [identity profile] coffeeandink.livejournal.com
1a. Most of the time I think they're not doing it yet (but that there's sexual tension there like whoa). But I'm perfectly happy willing to be persuaded otherwise by good fanfic.

Also, for Kate's reference, I should note that my conviction about the "not" took some blows in Reload V. 4.

Date: 2006-03-24 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rushthatspeaks.livejournal.com
1. Me too, actually.

2. I wish there were. There's only Shinji and Kaworu. The Kaworu plushie is really good, though.

3. Hmm. I'll think about it. I've only seen that arc in the Bad Hong Kong Translation, though, which might make my opinion a little... skewed.

Date: 2006-03-24 08:33 pm (UTC)
ext_6428: (Default)
From: [identity profile] coffeeandink.livejournal.com
I must remember to bring my plush Al keychain to Wiscon this year.

Date: 2006-03-24 08:34 pm (UTC)
kate_nepveu: Kenren and Tenpou in uniform leaning on each other, with falling cherry blossoms (Saiyuki Gaiden (Kenren and Tenpou))
From: [personal profile] kate_nepveu
_Reload_ being another reason for not being the right time or place. =>

(Tenpou and Kenren, OTOH? *So* doing it.)

Date: 2006-03-24 08:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com
Reload 4 convinced me that they definitely weren't doing it before the umbrellas.

Date: 2006-03-24 08:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com
3. Is that the "Rabbi Sanzo and the Fuck-Monkey of Asgard" translation?

Date: 2006-03-24 08:49 pm (UTC)
ext_6428: (Default)
From: [identity profile] coffeeandink.livejournal.com
... I had the opposite reaction. Maybe we should take this to a Kate-safe place, but later, when I'm not at work. ;)

Date: 2006-03-24 09:34 pm (UTC)
ext_6428: (Default)
From: [identity profile] coffeeandink.livejournal.com
Tenpou and Kenren are probably doing it in ways impossible for mortal men.

Date: 2006-03-24 10:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rushthatspeaks.livejournal.com
Closer to Worldcon, remind me to post my list of Anime-Related Stores That Are Findable in Tokyo, as well as my list of Things To Do In Tokyo Generally. I think it might come in useful for several people.

Date: 2006-03-24 10:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rushthatspeaks.livejournal.com
Got it in one.

Date: 2006-03-24 10:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rushthatspeaks.livejournal.com
Chibi Sanzo PWNZ at life.

Date: 2006-03-24 10:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rushthatspeaks.livejournal.com
You never see them at cons because they never got a major North American distributor and were released in Japan back when the first season of the anime came out, so they're really hard to find if you're buying from an actual store. Try eBay.

Date: 2006-03-24 10:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rushthatspeaks.livejournal.com
Yes. Please. You must.

Date: 2006-03-24 10:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] faithhopetricks.livejournal.com
OMG SAIYUKI PLUSHIES

((hearts you forever and ever for bringing this to my attention))

Date: 2006-03-24 10:23 pm (UTC)
octopedingenue: (ahiru is wise to your pastry charms)
From: [personal profile] octopedingenue
My wallet says "No, you do not need more fluffy stuffed creatures no matter what emotional connection you have to their non-cutesy animated counterparts; there are valid reasons why you got rid of most of your giant stuffed animal collection when you were twelve," but my heart says "YES, YES!"

It does make me want to pile the plushies currently in my dorm room on top of each other and take pictures, though.

Date: 2006-03-25 01:24 am (UTC)
oyceter: (Saiyuki: Goku live live live)
From: [personal profile] oyceter
OMG SO CUTE!

I so want a chibi-Sanzo keychain, in which he looks extremely grumpy at being chibi and ready to shoot the world.

Date: 2006-03-25 01:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cosmorific.livejournal.com
Ph34r Chibi Sanzo!

Date: 2006-03-25 01:45 am (UTC)
sovay: (Psholtii: in a bad mood)
From: [personal profile] sovay
. . . I was just scrolling down through the post and hit this sentence. Er—what?

Date: 2006-03-25 01:45 am (UTC)
sovay: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sovay
I am in love with the one in the monocle.

Date: 2006-03-25 02:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thomasyan.livejournal.com
See comments in http://www.livejournal.com/users/telophase/296036.html -- make sure to read all the comments for other wackiness, including on DVD where they just used the closed captioning for a totally different DVD.

Date: 2006-03-25 02:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rushthatspeaks.livejournal.com
The mostly-the-protagonist of this series is a Buddhist monk named Sanzo, who travels with the Monkey King. The Horrible Yet Hilarious Hong Kong Translation calls our Buddhist monk a rabbi (I suspect they had a thesaurus), produces 'What are you doing, fuck monkey?' out of a character calling the Monkey King annoying, and gives us 'I will not rapt the lections of Asgard' in place of 'I will not steal the Heavenly sutras'. I am unclear on some bits of what is actually going on in the show (or was before I looked it up), but as a watching experience it is really impressive. Every so often somebody in the household will still tell somebody else to be sure not to rapt the lections of Asgard, and we all fall over.

Date: 2006-03-25 02:13 am (UTC)

Date: 2006-03-25 02:14 am (UTC)
kate_nepveu: Kenren and Tenpou in uniform leaning on each other, with falling cherry blossoms (Saiyuki Gaiden (Kenren and Tenpou))
From: [personal profile] kate_nepveu
Of course I would never, in a public post, with a journal under my real name, admit to having read and enjoyed such a thing.

*whistles innocently*

Date: 2006-03-25 02:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com
...I think my head just exploded.

Date: 2006-03-25 02:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com
Your LJ or mine?

Date: 2006-03-25 03:03 am (UTC)
zdenka: Miriam with a tambourine, text "I will sing." (HotohoriHat)
From: [personal profile] zdenka
Oh gods. I don't believe we didn't think of doing that at the Ragnarok LARP! Woe and shame!

Date: 2006-03-25 04:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adrian-turtle.livejournal.com
How does this combine with the Star Wars translation? http://winterson.com/2005/06/episode-iii-backstroke-of-west.html
At least one step of transforming spoken English to spoken Chinese to English subtitles seemed to have been done by someone trying to substitute a thesaurus for fluency. Yes, "Jedi Council" and "Presbyterian Church" both refer to councils of elders...doesn't mean they're the same.

Date: 2006-03-25 05:33 am (UTC)
sovay: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sovay
. . . Which one is he and where can I buy one?

Date: 2006-03-25 05:35 am (UTC)
sovay: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sovay
produces 'What are you doing, fuck monkey?' out of a character calling the Monkey King annoying, and gives us 'I will not rapt the lections of Asgard' in place of 'I will not steal the Heavenly sutras'.

That's brilliant. In a bleed-from-the-eyes-learn-Japanese-in-self-defense kind of way, but brilliant all the same.

Date: 2006-03-25 06:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rushthatspeaks.livejournal.com
... wow. Just... wow.

Why was that so... plausible?

I am officially impressed.

Date: 2006-03-25 04:19 pm (UTC)
zdenka: Miriam with a tambourine, text "I will sing." (No Tea)
From: [personal profile] zdenka
Hakkai Hakkai Hakkai!

He's my favorite, too. In contrast to Gojyo and Goku, who constantly bicker like older and younger brother, and Sanzo the "unruly priest" who will swear and shoot at anything in his path, Hakkai is very calm and polite and mild-mannered all the time. Except on the rare occasions that he's angry, when he's calm and polite and mild-mannered and utterly terrifying.

Do we have to show you some Saiyuki now?

hopping by

Date: 2006-12-30 06:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stalkerbunny.livejournal.com
Wanted to know whether Saiyuki plushies existed, and stumbled on this discussion (yay! :)
Have to say I'm a bit jealous...The plushies sound pretty great (btw. I tried to find pictures, and did find some...I suppose there aren't many different ones?)
And now I'm of to find out more about these...original translations (to further amuse myself)

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