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Oh dear. I appear to have miscounted somewhere, but I can't figure out where. I have entries that entirely cover the segment I was offline, except for the last day of it, but I also have two books left that I read to review, not counting the one I read this morning, and I didn't read them on the same day. I took notes! What the hell?

Anyway, yesterday I read Patrick O'Brian's Master and Commander, and at some point that cannot, logically, have been yesterday, and cannot, logically, have been at any other time I read the Sarashina Nikki, and as I clearly read these books on alternate-universe versions of the same evening I have decided to review them in terms of one another.

The work now known as Sarashina Nikki was written by an author we now refer to as the Lady Sarashina (although that was not her name; Sarashina is the name of a province discussed at one point in the narrative, which somehow got attached). She was a Heian court lady, slightly later than Shonagon, so this book was composed sometime about the year 1000 A.D.

Due, no doubt, to this early date, there is almost nothing of naval interest about the work at all. Although the lady travels in it from an outlying province to the capital of Heian-Kyo, she makes this journey, and the subsequent pilgrimages to various shrines which form a substantial portion of her narrative, almost entirely overland. In addition, she had very little contact with the army, navy, or matters military, so it is almost impossible to get any idea from her of the lay of the land at the time, although revolts against the centralized government that shaped the core of her life were in fact at that point brewing.

Instead, she is concerned-- quite logically, actually-- with post and preferment, with the jobs available to her father, husband, and son, the wish to have them stay in the capital which is the center of all life and the need to have them leave for minor provinces to gain the experience necessary for advancement. She discusses this in the light of various religious and prophetic dreams over the course of her lifetime, and expresses the belief that all the bad luck in her life has come from failing to acknowledge her dreams: a novel but not terribly believable conceit for persons familiar with the British Admiralty. She also includes a great deal of poetry, although, possibly due to the exigencies of the translation, none of it is terribly singable or has any sort of strong rhythm.

By contrast, Master and Commander is a book about several rather low-class persons attached to a British naval vessel during the Napoleonic wars. Indeed, during the course of the book none of them come anywhere close to the capital at all, and must be regarded as distressingly provincial. Such persons, though they are depicted as being of fair bravery and great loyalty, are naturally on many occasions played for comedy; this is a book not concerned with princes and the conduct of nobility. It goes into great and sometimes distressing detail about its naval actions, which, it must be said, are exciting and well-related, and it even includes a little occasional poetry, of a doggerel fashion. It rather resembles the work of Dorothy Dunnett, but without many of the features that on occasion make Dunnett so annoying: Dunnett occasionally mishandles her women, but so far this series has no women to mishandle, and if you know sailing jargon it avoids entirely that tendency to obscurity which many claim mars the beginnings of the Lymond chronicles. Of course, if you do not know sailing jargon, it is probably as clear as mud. It has the excitement, the confidence, the surety and the scope of a great epic, and is as compulsively readable as one, which means that one may entirely disregard the fact that as far as a plot specific to this book, there really isn't one, or rather if there is one it resolves at entirely the wrong times to fit the usual mold this sort of book is set in. And it gives a fair account of various marine plants, weather conditions, aspects of the coastline, and views of natural phenomena, although not, of course, as much as one might wish for.

I shall certainly read more Patrick O'Brian.

I trust this straightens out whatever confusion happened in my notes.

Date: 2010-09-18 02:36 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kate_nepveu
I ♥ you.

Date: 2010-09-19 05:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kate_nepveu
Also, the thing that works if you don't know naval jargon is to listen to it as an audiobook (read by Patrick Tull, no-one else), which lets the lessons in jargon provided early and the battle play-by-play actually sink in instead of getting skimmed over.

These were one of only two things that I did audio-first for despite having the full texts to hand. (The other is Stephen Briggs' more recent readings of Terry Pratchett's books.)

Date: 2010-09-21 11:13 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kate_nepveu
Most libraries will have the Patrick Tull versions on CD, which is handy.

Date: 2012-04-30 03:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kate_nepveu
(You know that these gibberish-subject comments are tests for spammers and should be deleted and marked as spam, right?)

Date: 2012-04-30 07:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kate_nepveu
Cool--I figured it might not be obvious since the folks in the news update always make a point of stressing that. Begone, spammers!

Date: 2010-09-18 02:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sartorias.livejournal.com
I am so glad you will read more O'Brian. Imo the third book is where he hits white-hot brilliance.

Date: 2010-09-19 04:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rushthatspeaks.livejournal.com
I am very, very much looking forward to more O'Brian.

Date: 2010-09-18 03:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashnistrike.livejournal.com
This is an extraordinarily entertaining mode of review.

Date: 2010-09-19 05:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rushthatspeaks.livejournal.com
Thank you! It was surprisingly difficult to write, because I wanted to get across how much I liked the book and whether I think people would enjoy it, and I thiiiink I did that, but it was tough. So I am glad it works.

Date: 2010-09-18 03:39 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sovay
Although the lady travels in it from an outlying province to the capital of Heian-Kyo, she makes this journey, and the subsequent pilgrimages to various shrines which form a substantial portion of her narrative, almost entirely overland. In addition, she had very little contact with the army, navy, or matters military, so it is almost impossible to get any idea from her of the lay of the land at the time, although revolts against the centralized government that shaped the core of her life were in fact at that point brewing.

Indeed, during the course of the book none of them come anywhere close to the capital at all, and must be regarded as distressingly provincial.


Sorry, I love this review.

Date: 2010-09-18 02:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gaudior.livejournal.com
Deep agreement. This was precisely the right way to handle your alternate timeline.

Date: 2010-09-18 07:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com
LOL! The Heian-esque judgment of Master and Commander and the naval judgement of Sarashina Nikki made me laugh out loud, indeed. In answer to your question next post on, you bet! I, at least, am enjoying these entries of yours.

Date: 2010-09-18 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] occultatio.livejournal.com
Dunnett occasionally mishandles her women

I have never heard this claim made before, and I absolutely adore the Lymond chronicles. Elaborate?

Date: 2010-09-19 05:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rushthatspeaks.livejournal.com
Much of Checkmate has been visited by the Standards Of Sexual Morality That Aren't Actually Those Of This Historical Period fairy. In general, freely chosen sexual behavior by women throughout the series leads to them being punished fairly nastily by the text and turning into villains or rivals, even if it is not terribly psychologically plausible. Physical beauty in women is usually a sign of at least some evil. And the resolution of the whole plot with Oonagh O'Dwyer makes me want to scream and throw things, because the text is ignoring her obvious competencies.

That said, Dunnett is much better than most historical writers at sticking to the mores of her era, which means that I find it less annoying than I might; and I do love the books.

Date: 2010-09-18 05:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] larryhammer
And so I must confess, dear reader, that when I got to the phrase "I have decided to review them in terms of one another," that I found I needed a lie down for a short while to let, as it were, my overheated brain cool off.

(The more so because I've returned to translating from the Kokinshu and so am close to one such headspace than the other.)

---L.
Edited Date: 2010-09-18 05:43 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-09-19 11:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jinian.livejournal.com
This review is a thing of the utmost beauty. If you ever require someone to be cut into pieces for you please do notify me.

Date: 2010-09-21 01:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bravecows.livejournal.com
I adore O'Brian's women, I wish he'd written another 20 books about them. I look forward to seeing what you have to say about them!

P. S. Hi! I added you 'cos [livejournal.com profile] rachelmanija recommended your book reviews. :)

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